Obama lies and it might be your Grandma that dies

August 16, 2009

58102185Obama brought his Grandmother into the end of life discussion of  “death panels.” The Brownshirt Democrats have erupted in a cacophony of denials about this touchy issue. “Methinks the lady doth protest too much.” At the heart of this debate is the question of who will make the difficult decisions to pull the plug on granny. At present this difficult decision is made by personal legal wills and family members. The concern is that this decision will become the providence of a new government run “death panel” whose only criteria will be cost savings. The “end of life counseling” indicates a “stealth” movement to this goal in this bill. The Senate has recently dropped the provision because of the political fallout of this issue. Other than flat out denials the Democrats have failed to be honest with us about this touchy issue.

It is a very difficult decision now when families have to make it. They have to balance personal feelings with financial costs and the will of the family member. The idea the decision will just disappear in a government run health care system is absurd. The question of who will make this decision and what will be the criteria is at the core of the current controversy.

The following excerpt is from Newsmax:

President Barack Obama on Saturday invoked his own anguish over the death of a loved one as he challenged the debunked notion that Democratic efforts to overhaul the nation’s health care would include “death panels.”

“I just lost my grandmother last year. I know what it’s like to watch somebody you love, who’s aging, deteriorate and have to struggle with that,” an impassioned Obama told a crowd in Grand Junction, Colo., as he spoke of Madelyn Payne Dunham. He took issue with “the notion that somehow I ran for public office or members of Congress are in this so they can go around pulling the plug on grandma.”

First of all the charge of “death panels” has only been debunked in the Obama loving media that acts as his personal cheerleading section. Now this may sound real touchy-feely on the surface but lets take a closer look at the issue. Here’s another statement as reported by Bloomberg made by Obama this spring on his grandmothers death. She died from cancer two days before the election last Nov 4th. The statement is about the cost and practicality of her hip replacement surgery.

President Barack Obama said his grandmother’s hip-replacement surgery during the final weeks of her life made him wonder whether expensive procedures for the terminally ill reflect a “sustainable model” for health care.

So even he admits that his own personal situation with his grandmother “made him wonder whether expensive procedures for the terminally ill reflect a ‘sustainable model’ for health care.” It is a serious moral and ethical issue. It is a real issue that challenges many families today. You can extrapolate from his statement that a government run system would be “unsustainable” if it provided care to every senior that needed it. He admits that it is a cost effectiveness issue. If it provided care to everyone that needed care it would cost to much and go bankrupt. It is a cost issue. It is quite a different statement from the one he made at the Townhall propaganda event where he is trying to “sell” his health program to an increasingly doubtful public. He attempts to use empathy to to reach out and deceive us about his real concern and intention which he clearly stated last April.

With his grandmothers death it was a personal decision. He did not try to stop her from getting the operation but he infers that under a public system somebody would have to make that decision. A government “death panel.” Now you can call this a “cost effectiveness panel” if you want but the effect is the same. This is what is so disturbing to both seniors and family members.

Equally conerning to us is that doctors in his administration have made very troubling statements on the issue of cost effectiveness concerning seniors. For the Democrats to deny this is an issue is a bald faced lie. Does Obama agree with them? He hasn’t fired them because he disagrees with them.

From Dr. Ezekiel Emanuel, the brother of White House Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel.

He has already been appointed to two key positions: health-policy adviser at the Office of Management and Budget and a member of Federal Council on Comparative Effectiveness Research…. Savings, he writes, will require changing how doctors think about their patients: Doctors take the Hippocratic Oath too seriously, “as an imperative to do everything for the patient regardless of the cost or effects on others” (Journal of the American Medical Association, June 18, 2008)…..

And here is another troubling statement from Dr. David Blumenthal, another key Obama adviser.

He recommends slowing medical innovation to control health spending. Blumenthal has long advocated government health-spending controls, though he concedes they’re “associated with longer waits” and “reduced availability of new and expensive treatments and devices” (New England Journal of Medicine, March 8, 2001). But he calls it “debatable” whether the timely care Americans get is worth the cost. (Ask a cancer patient, and you’ll get a different answer. Delay lowers your chances of survival.)

This statement from the president’s budget director, Peter Orszag is perhaps the most ominous indicating they want a new, presidentially-appointed bureaucracy or a “death panel.”

Knowing how unpopular the cuts will be, the president’s budget director, Peter Orszag, urged Congress this week to delegate its own authority over Medicare to a new, presidentially-appointed bureaucracy that wouldn’t be accountable to the public.

You can play all the word games you want but for the Democrats to deny that this is a real issue is indicative of just how dishonest that really are and it proves that they will tell any lie to get this bill passed. This is exactly why this bill should be rejected by America. It is being proposed by pathological liars that have continued to prove just how irresponsible they really are. That is our government at work.

Obama lies and it might your Grandma that dies as a result of it………


Obamacare: Did Stalin Have it Right?

August 14, 2009

“A single death is a tragedy, a million deaths is a statistic.” – Joseph Stalin

The Democrats are lining up like ‘Brownshirts’ behind Obamacare. They have characterized their political opponents as Nazis, KKK, thugs, mobs, Un-American, racist rednecks and they claim it’s all organized by Republicans “right out of their dirty playbook.”  Nothing could be further from the truth. So much for the civil debate on this divisive issue by the Democrats. Welcome to the new civil war in America. It’s the continuing Socialist war on free America. The commies really are finally taking over but don’t call them that because according to them, socialism is the new “N word.” They want to marginalize anyone that disagrees with them so they label them. They even initiated an Orwellian national snitch program at flag@whitehouse.gov. Can you imagine the uproar if Bush had tried a fascist stunt like that? No complaints from the state run Obama media though.

You may be able to find your new national ID in one of those descriptions. “Redneck #455763232 – please explain your thought crimes against Obama.”

They characterize the opposition to Obamacare as “fear mongering and scaring seniors” and call it misinformation, yet no one has tried to explain why these things are hidden in this monstrosity of a Trojan horse health bill. Perhaps they thought we would not read it either and by stealth they could sneak their real hidden agenda past us. It’s Obama that is practicing real “fear mongering.” He is creating a crisis where none existed. He is the one beholden to the special interests of the drug companies that WANT TO MAINTAIN THEIR STAUS QUO WITH THIS BILL. It’s not about health reform. It’s about the government taking over our lives in the name of “health reform.” It is about replacing the American free society with government control of every part of our lives. I don’t want the government involved in my health decisions or my health insurance. Giving them this amount of control over someone’s life would mean that they are completely and irreversibly dependent on the government for the rest of their life. For the socialist this sounds like a utopia but for a free American it is a living nightmare. The complete socialist cradle to grave nanny state.

Obamacare is in every way Un-American. He is attempting to use stealth and subterfuge to deceive us into buying into a commie program. It’s like telling people to spend money so they can save. As our wise sage Biden said recently, “In order to keep from going bankrupt we need to spend money.” Wrong again – we need to stop spending money we don’t have to keep from going bankrupt. The only conclusion I can come to is that they want to bankrupt and destroy us economically. In other words what they are doing is intentional. How’s that for some fear mongering? It scares the hell out of me………

58102185I want the government to keep their hands off of my body and out of my life! That used to be the mantra of the feminists. For the Democrats, a government run Healthcare system is a utopian dream. The ultimate fulfillment of their programmed progressive liberal human evolution. It is a sacred tenant, the holiest of sacred cows, the Holy Grail of all their “isms.” It was also one of Stalin’s most effective weapons of government control. Obama wants a single pay system no matter what he says in his orchestrated “Townhall” propaganda events. We already know that he will say anything to get elected. He will say anything to get this bill passed to – in any form. They claim they want to discuss it “civilly” when they tried to Rahm it through Congress before summer recess when no one even knew what was in the bill. This stuff could already be law if we hadn’t stopped it. What a bunch of pathological liars…….

Health is an individual responsibility it is not a government mandate. We all need insurance for an unforeseen catastrophic illness but as it is used today it is abused. People act as if everything is covered. We have car insurance but we pay for all the maintenance, tires and gas etc. People use their health insurance for everything. That is one reason why premiums are so high.

Inflation is the another big reason costs continue to soar. The hidden tax on life. Americans would not be so hard pressed by costs if we were not being run into the ground by the bankers of Wall Street. The continued devaluation of the dollar by our deficit spending addicts in government is a primary causes of inflation along with the excessive expansion of our money supply by the Fed. Life in general has become unaffordable – not just our Healthcare. The bastard child of socialism called “Obamacare” will only aggravate this trend. You can’t outsource Healthcare. You can’t import cheaper doctors. People from all over the world come to America to get the best Healthcare available. We don’t go anywhere else to utilize their national single pay systems, with the exception of some natural healing programs that are out of reach of the FDA as in Mexico, but those are not government programs. Have you ever heard of anyone going to Russia for a heart operation?

The preventative insurance of living a healthy life is the best policy along with the grace of God. The government cannot legislate good personal decisions for health – it can’t even make them for itself. The government cannot guarantee our health. The government cannot take care of itself – never mind the country’s health needs. Our government has lost all credibility. It is sick and riddled with disease. It is a pandemic. They are infecting the population. They should be quarantined until cured – perhaps even in the Gulag. They need a financial and economics 101 lesson by Dave Ramsey. We need a 12 step program for the spending and control addicts in our government. They are pathological liars that try to hide their sickness. They will say anything to get us to buy them another drink. Our modern day benefactors are wolves in sheep’s clothing. They always want to spend other peoples money – not their own.

I would be willing to pay more taxes to help wean them of their addiction. Deficit spending is a disease that is destroying America. Obama is by far the worst case we have seen so far. Would any amount of treatment heal him? I think it would not be cost effective. There are many others we could save with that tax money.

Do we need real health reform? Absolutely. Let’s start by cutting the billing and administrative costs of insurance. Let’s stop big pharma peddling drugs on TV. Let’s stop the special interests from buying our politicians and running the agencies that are suppose to look out for the American people. They are the ones making too much money by getting Americans addicted to their crap. Lets have real TORT reform. Lets have insurance that works nationally. Let’s get rid of the fraud in medicare and medicaid. I could go on and on but Obama is doing none of these things with this bill. The Obama administration is run and controlled by special interests, political lobbies and Wall St. The corruption of Chicago has taken over the White House and America.

Do you think the idea of rationing Healthcare is made up by radical right extremists? It is being proposed by the liberal Stalinists on the left, like Obama’s own appointees……..

The proposed concept of letting someone die because it is more cost effective is not something just made up – it is real. Joseph Stalin, was arguably one of the most brutal mass murderers to ever live on earth. How could anyone in their right mind hold him up as an of example of “moral ethics” of rationing healthcare. I believe you can attribute about 30 million deaths to him. 10 million starved to death in the Ukraine in 1933 when he cut off their food. Do you think anyone received end of life counseling from him in the Gulag? Stalin had it right? This conclusion is the product of a liberal government education. They need to study a little real history.

Stalin was a monster. How many lives did he save in the USSR with his government health plan? We know he killed millions, far more than Hitler. How could he be the architect of a modern socialist government run Healthcare? Who in their right mind would hold him up as an example of good moral and ethical judgement for doctors? The concept is absurd.

I don’t want Obama’s 1.5 trillion dollar socialist health plan and I don’t want the 700 billion proposed by the stupid Republicans either. If the government cannot manage the responsibilities they already have, who in their right mind would propose that we give them more? That is insane. The real moral and ethical challenges of cost effectiveness vs medical is an individual decision. It is not the responsibility of our government or an unseen board. That is what wills are for. It is an individual decision and a personal decision.

Articles about rationing Healthcare:

Healthcare Rationing: Why Stalin Had it Right

In 1984, Colorado Governor Richard Lamm famously opined that the elderly had a “duty to die” in order to free up resources for the young. He was vilified.

In 1987, Oregon stepped into the mess that is healthcare rationing, and spent much of the next decade scraping off its metaphorical shoe. In the face of exploding Medicaid costs, the state legislature decided not to fund transplants (including bone marrow transplants) in order to preserve limited funds to cover other services.

DEADLY DOCTORS – O ADVISERS WANT TO RATION CARE

Dr. Ezekiel Emanuel, the brother of White House Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel. He has already been appointed to two key positions: health-policy adviser at the Office of Management and Budget and a member of Federal Council on Comparative Effectiveness Research…. Savings, he writes, will require changing how doctors think about their patients: Doctors take the Hippocratic Oath too seriously, “as an imperative to do everything for the patient regardless of the cost or effects on others” (Journal of the American Medical Association, June 18, 2008)…..

The bills being rushed through Congress will be paid for largely by a $500 billion-plus cut in Medicare over 10 years. Knowing how unpopular the cuts will be, the president’s budget director, Peter Orszag, urged Congress this week to delegate its own authority over Medicare to a new, presidentially-appointed bureaucracy that wouldn’t be accountable to the public.

Dr. David Blumenthal, another key Obama adviser, agrees. He recommends slowing medical innovation to control health spending.

Blumenthal has long advocated government health-spending controls, though he concedes they’re “associated with longer waits” and “reduced availability of new and expensive treatments and devices” (New England Journal of Medicine, March 8, 2001). But he calls it “debatable” whether the timely care Americans get is worth the cost. (Ask a cancer patient, and you’ll get a different answer. Delay lowers your chances of survival.)

Also a good read here:
STALINIST ‘REFORM’: A public option that destroys all options

We are not making this stuff up folks! We did not write this bill – they did!

Here are a coupe of lists of stuff they sneaked into this bill.

Have You Read The New Health Plan Bill?
Obama Health Plan’s Dirty, Tyrannical, Hidden Secrets

Read the bill yourself here:
http://frwebgate.access.gpo.gov/cgi-bin/getdoc.cgi?dbname=111_cong_bills&docid=f:h3200ih.pdf