Kennedy killer humor “Have you heard any new jokes about Chappaquiddick?”

August 29, 2009

Some of Ted Kennedy’s killer humor as reported at WND:

Mary Jo Kopechne

One of Sen. Ted Kennedy’s favorite topics of humor was the incident at Chappaquiddick Island, Mass., in 1969 in which he drove off a bridge and left behind a 28-year-old woman who drowned, according to a biographer who reminisced about the iconic Democrat on a Washington, D.C., talk show this morning.

Edward Klein, speaking to WAMU guest host Katty Kay, said one of Kennedy’s “favorite topics of humor was, indeed, Chappaquiddick.”

“He would ask people, ‘Have you heard any new jokes about Chappaquiddick?'” said Klein, a former Newsweek foreign editor and former editor in chief of the New York Times Magazine.

Hey Ted, Here’s another funny.


No more Lyin’ in the Senate for Ted Kennedy (The Chappaquiddick Kid)

August 27, 2009

“Politicians are the lowest form of life on earth. Liberal Democrats are the lowest form of politician.” -General George S. Patton, Jr.

Kennedy_neckbracebgAugust 26th, 2009 should be declared a day of jubilee. Future generations will look back and celebrate the fall of this mighty liar that deceived millions. A King of modern liberal myths. Lucifer himself admired his crooked tongue. At last it has been silenced. The idolatry of the professional liars in the media will laud him for days but I cannot join with the idiot throng. This man did more damage to America than any other single person in our history. Good riddance Ted Kennedy. May you rot in the same hell you created for Mary Jo Kopechne. May you be allotted a small pocket of air in an upside down car and experience over and over again the last gasp of life giving oxygen until you finally repent and confess your crimes against America, humanity and Mary Jo. That is the only mercy you deserve.

Here lies a man who had everything in life from birth and used it to help destroy the American way of life. Here is man who used his wealth and influence to escape justice. Here is a man who was a pathetic womanizer and a liar and a drunk – a murderer. His life was a pathetic excuse for an existence. Shame on the people of Massachusetts that live in a state of idolatry and worship the Kennedy clan. May the myth of liberalism die with him. May the ignorant fools that idolized this liberal hypocrite awake from their slumber. May the web of darkness spun out of the mouth of this liberal liar be shattered by the light of truth, the light of freedom.

May he be cast down from his earthly throne and find his true lot with the traitors and betrayers of life, liberty and freedom. May we finally throw off the yoke of ignorance that is the mortar and pestle of elitist slavery. May the eternal God avenge us and grant us our day of reckoning with this generation of vipers. This man was the very epitome of the New World Order. The elite who use their wealth and power to destroy America and our way of life. Their superficial pretense of helping the common man and poor is a sick farce. He followed in the footsteps of Lenin and Stalin and the arch deceivers of mankind.  The super rich like Ted Kennedy eat the poor for their own amusement at their Martha’s Vineyard parties. This is the new nobility of self indulgent fools that are destroying America. They are a cancer and a blight on America’s destiny.

It is truly fitting that the Democrats elevate this liberal hypocrite to the highest level of their pantheon. He is a fitting patriarch for the Democrats. He defines perfectly what they have become. Patton rightly said, “Liberal Democrats are the lowest form of politician.” They will attempt to make a God out of him. I would suggest they look for him in the other place – in the infernal regions.

Here are some examples of Ted Kennedy”s personal legislative assault on America’s freedom:

  • Supported and advocated the murder of 45 million babies since 1973 in the name of “women’s rights.”
  • Architect of passage of the Hart-Celler Act of 1965, which abolished the national-origin immigration quotas that had been in effect since the 1920s.
  • Architect of the failed 2007 Immigration Reform Act which was a blatant attempt to recruit 30 million new ignorant illegal alien Democratic voters.
  • Architect of the welfare state that created a new generation of ignorant dependents that are given just enough to keep them alive as slaves of the state on the Liberal Democrat inspired plantation and voting Democrat.
  • Personally responsible for the nomination of Barack Obama and his illegal occupation of the White House by the illegal alien AKA Barry Soetoro.

From Newsmax:

Kennedy’s legislative accomplishments had a dark side as well. As he worked diligently in the back rooms that Senate deal-makers frequented, his years in the Senate saw a metastatic growth in the size of the federal government. Suggestions that Kennedy’s progressive intentions could pave the road to disastrous outcomes were ridiculed as ignorant fear-mongering, even as they are today.

In 1965, for example, Kennedy dismissed opponents of the Hart-Celler Act, who feared it would contribute to a vast flood of immigration into the United States.

Kennedy insisted during a hearing: “The bill will not flood our cities with immigrants. It will not upset the ethnic mix of our society. It will not relax the standards of admission. It will not cause American workers to lose their jobs.”

Four decades later, with more than 12 million illegal immigrants living in the United States, Kennedy’s lifelong drive to open up the United States to an influx of immigration has had serious — if not devastating — consequences.

Historically, Kennedy’s most tainted legislative legacy may be his vitriolic, personal attack campaign against brilliant originalist legal scholar Robert Bork.

Obamalogic – Obama redefines monopoly and competition with Obamacare

August 19, 2009

“there are no rules for revolution but there are rules for radicals who want to change their world.” –Rules for Radicals, Saul Alinsky

I noticed a spate of attempts by Obama and his Brownshirt Democrats to redefine basic concepts and ideas. He is twisting definitions to fit his radical political agenda. He is attempting to redefine the wheel. The world is now flat according to Obama. Some have seen these statements as gaffes as when he lauded UPS and Fedex over the Post Office while trying to sell his government plan.

Aug. 18 (Bloomberg) — “UPS and FedEx are doing just fine. It’s the Post Office that’s always having problems.” — Barack Obama, Aug. 11, 2009

I think they are intentional attempts to twist the meaning of words to deceive people. I have not studied “Rules for Radicals” but I’m willing to bet there is a section in there on methods of persuasion by twisting definitions. I did a quick Google search and was able to find this revealing quote on Pg 60.

“All definitions of words, like everything else, are relative. Definition is to a major degree dependent upon your partisan position.” –Rules for Radicals, Saul Alinsky

Redefining competition:

This is what Obama said recently:

“Any plan I sign must include an insurance exchange, a one-stop shopping marketplace where you can compare the benefits, cost and track records of a variety of plans including a public option to increase competition and keep insurance companies honest and choose what’s best for your family,”

Fishy_infoAt the core of this argument is the idea that a “public option” is going to increase competition in the free market. The government is going to compete in the free market and lower costs for consumers. Excuse me but what does he base that theory on? There no evidence that any government endeavor increases competition. In fact it does just the opposite. The only evidence that exists shows that the government is inept and wastes money and in the case of Freddie, Fannie and the Post Office – loses lots of money. The only competition they can provide is if they are subsidized and even that is questionable. A poorly run private enterprise is always better than the best run government program.

The idea that the government can provide competition in the free market that will result in cost savings for Americans in and of itself is laughable.  In Obamalogic, government involvement equates with free market competition. Is Obama that stupid or is this an intentional attempt to redefine reality for his own political purposes? I don’t think he is that stupid. I do think he is a socialist.

Here is Robert Gibbs asserting the same premise:

…the President has also said I don’t know how many times if the goals are choice and competition, right, the reason you have a public option is because you have an insurance market that doesn’t have choice or competition.

Redefining monopoly:

The most glaring statement on this was by White House spokesman Robert Gibbs. In addressing all the hysteria about dropping the public option, this is what he said:

…The President strongly believes that we have to have — and I mentioned — I walked through the notion of why choice and competition are so fundamentally important to this debate — that in a monopoly, without consumer choice, without competition among health insurance providers, you’re certainly not likely to see cut in cost, you’re certainly not likely to see a competition on quality. And those are the goals that the President has.

On the surface this all seems well and good, a noble intention by Obama. Free market principles and ideas applied to a government run health care system. If he really wanted more competition they could remove the restrictions that prevent insurance companies from competing over State lines.

Here is a list of major health insurance companies operating in America today published on Wikipedia.

By any definition this is not a monopoly. Gibbs claims that because one company dominates a market in a certain state, that constitutes a monopoly. If they removed the Federal restrictions that prevent insurance companies from competing across state lines that would increase competition and reduce costs. This is a way the Federal government could use it’s power to foster a more competitive free market. There are proposals like this in Congress but Obama, in spite of his rhetoric of being willing to look at all proposals, has refused to embrace this idea. That indicates to me that this is not what he is really interested in accomplishing.

Gibbs also had this to say:

…the President — his position, the administration’s position is unchanged; that we have a goal of fostering choice and competition in a private health insurance market. The President prefers the public option as a way of doing that.

The real problem is that Obama’s way of bringing competition and choice into the marketplace would ultimately remove any choice for Americans. Private insurers would be forced to compete in an unfair playing field. Eventually they would be forced out of business. The government does not have to make money to stay in business. Clearly all it does is use and lose money. What is the  government’s expertise when it comes to efficiency? When did it ever make a profit?

Obama has stated clearly that he wants a single payer system. He has also said that it might take 10 or 15 years to get there. He has also lied recently and said that is not what he really wants. The reality is that he is trying to get this accomplished – incrementally if they have to. He is using dishonest and deceptive rhetoric to try and fool people about his ultimate goal of a government run single payer health care system. He is not interested in competition or choice. He is not interested in helping Americans save money. He is interested in a government run health care system. That is all he is interested in… A government run health care system does not embrace competition and choice. What he really wants is in fact – the exact opposite of that. What Obama wants is a government monopoly of our health care system with no competition.

In an Op-Ed written by Caroline Baum and titled “Obama Goes Postal, Lands in Dead-Letter Office” she asks some very obvious questions about Obama’s questionable logic.

Everyone makes a mistake or flubs a line when asked questions on the spot, including the president of the United States. We can overlook run-on sentences, subject and verb tense disagreement, even a memory lapse when it comes to facts and figures.

The proliferation of Obama’s gaffes and non sequiturs on health care has exceeded the allowable limit. He has failed repeatedly to explain how the government will provide more (health care) for less (money). He has failed to explain why increased demand for medical services without a concomitant increase in supply won’t lead to rationing by government bureaucrats as opposed to the market. And he has failed to explain why a Medicare-like model is desirable when Medicare itself is going broke.

The public is left with one of two unsettling conclusions: Either the president doesn’t understand the health-insurance reform plans working their way through Congress, or he understands both the plans and the implications and is being untruthful about the impact.

Neither option is good; ignorance is clearly preferable to the alternative.

Obamalogic invents a new word:

Deficit-neutral is a new word that the administration has been throwing around recently to try and overcome one of the main complaints about their new health care system. “It’s too expensive and we can’t afford it.” They hope to fool people with this silly rhetoric. They hope to imply they are fiscally responsible. So far it doesn’t look like it’s working…

U.S. healthcare reform will be “deficit-neutral” and the chances it can be delivered by August are “high,” the White House budget director (Peter Orszag) says.

Obamalogic like Obamanomics does not work. It defies reason and logic and relies on superficial emotional deceptive appeal. Like the ancient Sirens of old they tempt us into the rocks of socialism. It is irrational and ultimately destructive for America. It is in fact UnAmerican.

AARP loses members over health care stance

August 18, 2009


Here some interesting news.

WASHINGTON (AP) — About 60,000 senior citizens have quit AARP since July 1 due to the group’s support for a health care overhaul, a spokesman for the organization said Monday.
The membership loss suggests dissatisfaction on the part of AARP members at a time when many senior citizens are concerned about proposed cuts to Medicare providers to help pay for making health care available for all. But spokesman Drew Nannis said it wasn’t unusual for the powerful, 40 million-strong senior citizens’ lobby to shed members in droves when it’s advocating on a controversial issue.

According to Dick Morris this is terrifying prospect for the Democrats who have kept the Senior vote over the years with Medi-scare and Social in-security scare tactics. The prospect of losing the care they have become used to is more than a little unsettling for the elderly. Morris says we only need few more seniors to stop this.

The Fox News/Opinion Dynamics Poll of July 21-24 found that voters over 65 opposed the Obama plan by 35-47. They oppose a government-run insurance plan to compete with private plans by 31-56 and believe that the Obama plan will “cost me money” rather than “save me money” by 57-20! Only 24 percent of the elderly feel that the Obama plan will lead to better healthcare for “you and your family,” while 45 percent believe the quality of care will be worse.

I can’t help but see the irony of senior citizens who have become use to a certain level of entitlements stopping a government attempting to create even more dependents. Dick Morris was interviewed by Greta Van Susteren recently and had this to say as well.

But the real thing that’s bothering Obama and the Democrats is not the poll numbers. They can tolerate bad poll numbers. It is the block voting of senior citizens against this package. The Democratic Party is composed of building blocks, interest groups. Republicans aren’t. They’re just a group of people who think the same on issues. But Democrats are blacks, plus Hispanics, plus women, plus young people, plus labor unions, plus the elderly. And when one of those blocks turns against what the Democrats are doing, the party gets scared to death.

And right now, senior citizens are by more than 20 points opposed to this program. And that is why the program may be defeated because they know that if they lose the elderly, they lose them forever. They won them over Social Security, now they’ll lose him over the repeal of Medicare, and they’re not prepared to do that.

The Obamacare propaganda town hall event staged in Belgrade, MT

August 18, 2009

58107471Why did the White House choose little ‘ol Belgrade? Was it easier to stage the event on their behalf? The media ran with the headlines of polite civility. CNN’s headline was Obama seeks out skeptics at Montana town hall. And Time ran Obama in Montana: No Fireworks, Inside or Out. Wow, it sounds so nice and polite and civil. Not like all the ugly confrontations we have seen at other real town hall events hosted across the country. I guess you could call it a carefully staged media propaganda event. It appears they weren’t really interested in interacting with the local opposition. They kept people that were opposed away and then ran headlines to create a different atmosphere.

Here is a series of recent pro Obama headlines published by PatriotPost:

Newspulper Headlines:

Our Fearless Independent Media:

  • “Obama Takes On Health Care Critics” –
  • “Obama Takes On Health Care Reform Critics” –Voice of America Web site
  • “Obama Takes On Health Care Critics” –Associated Press
  • “Obama Takes On Health Care Critics” –USA Today
  • “Obama Takes On Critics at Town Hall Forum” –Chicago Tribune
  • “Obama Takes On Health Care Critics” –

The following email was published at Rumormills and shows an entirely different perspective on the event and how it was managed and manipulated by Obama and his media whores.

I can’t vouch for this particular ladies story, but I can vouch for two other good friends, who live in Bozeman MT, and went to protest. Their reports are eerily similar. Hundreds showed up to protest (close to 1,000) yet none were allowed to get ANYWHERE near the sainted one or his ‘rally.’ 1,000 protesters, in Montana is like half the state 🙂 Just kidding. However, it is a lot.

This is in response to another post but it need to stand on it’s own. Montana people DO NOT like Obama or his plans. Don’t be fooled!!


Received this from my cousin’s wife, Kathy. They live in Bozeman, Montana. Telling.

Hello All,

By now you have probably heard that President Obama came to Montana last Friday. However, there are many things that the major news has not covered. I feel that since Bill and I live here and we were at the airport on Friday I should share some facts with you. Whatever you decide to do with the information is up to you. If you chose to share this email with others I do ask that you DELETE my email address before you forward this on.

On Wednesday, August 5th it was announced locally that the President would be coming here. There are many groups here that are against his healthcare and huge spending so those groups began talking and deciding on what they were going to do. The White House would not release ANY details other than the date.

On about Tuesday Bill found out that they would be holding the “Town Hall” at the airport. (This is only because Bill knows EVERYONE at the airport) Our airport is actually located outside of Belgrade (tiny town) in a very remote location. Nothing is around there. They chose to use a hangar that is the most remotely located hangar. You could not pick a more remote location, and you can not get to it easily. It is totally secluded from the public.

FYI: We have many areas in Belgrade and Bozeman which could have held a large amount of folks with sufficient parking. (gymnasiums/auditoriums). All of which have chairs and tables, and would not have to be SHIPPED IN!! $$$$$
During the week, cargo by the TONS was being shipped in constantly. Airport employees could not believe how it just kept coming. Though it was our President coming several expressed how excessive it was, especially during a recession. $$$$$

Late Tuesday/early Wednesday the 12th, they said that tickets would be handed out on Thursday 9am at two locations and the president would be arriving around 12:30 Friday.

Thursday morning about 600 tickets were passed out. However, 1500 were printed at a Local printing shop per White House request. Hmmmm……900 tickets just DISAPPEARED.
This same morning someone called into the radio from the local UPS branch and said that THOUSANDS of Dollars of Lobster were shipped in for Obama. Montana has some of the best beef in the nation!!! And it would have been really wonderful to help out the local economy. Anyone heard of the Recession?? Just think…with all of the traveling the White House is doing. $$$$$ One can only imagine what else we are paying for.

On Friday Bill and I got out to the airport about 10:45am. The groups that wanted to protest Obama’s spending and healthcare had gotten a permit to protest and that area was roped off. But that was not to be. A large bus carrying SEIU (Service Employees International Union) members drove up onto the area (illegal)and unloaded right there. It was quite a commotion and there were specifically 2 SEIU men trying to make trouble and start a fight. Police did get involved and arrested the one man but they said they did not have the manpower to remove the SEIU crowd.
The SEIU crowd was very organized and young. About 99% were under the age of 30 and they were not locals! They had bullhorns and PROFESSIONALLY made signs. Some even wore preprinted T-shirts. Oh, and Planned Parenthood folks were with them…..professing abortion rights with their T-shirts and preprinted signs. (BTW, all these folks did have a permit to protest in ANOTHER area)

Those against healthcare/spending moved away from the SEIU crowd to avoid confrontation. They were orderly and respectful. Even though SEIU kept coming over and walking through, continuing to be very intimidating and aggressive at the direction of the one SEIU man.

So we had Montana folks from ALL OVER the state with their homemade signs and their DOGS with homemade signs. We had cowboys, nurses, doctors you name it. There was even a guy from Texas who had been driving through. He found out about the occasion, went to the store, made a sign, and came to protest.

If you are wondering about the press…..Well, all of the major networks were over by that remote hangar I mentioned. They were conveniently parked on the other side of the buildings FAR away. None of these crowds were even visible to them. I have my doubts that they knew anything about the crowds.
We did have some local news media around us from this state and Idaho. Speaking of the local media…they were invited. However, all questions were to be turned into the White House in advance of the event. Wouldn’t want anyone to have to think off the top of their head.

It was very obvious that it was meant to be totally controlled by the White House. Everything was orchestrated down to the last detail to make it appear that Montana is just crazy for Obama and government healthcare. Even those people that talked about their insurance woes……..the White House called our local HRDC (Human Resource and Development Committee) and asked for names. Then the White House asked those folks to come. Smoke and mirrors…EVERYTHING was staged!!!!!!!!!!!

I am very dismayed about what I learned about our current White House. The amount of control and manipulation was unbelievable. I felt I was not living in the United States of America, more like the USSR!! I was physically nauseous. Bill and I have been around when Presidents or Heads of State visit. It has NEVER been like this. I am truly very frightened for our country. America needs your prayers and your voices. If you care about our country please get involved. Know the issues. And let Congress hear your voices again and again!! If they are willing to put forth so much effort to BULLY a small town one can only imagine what is going on in Washington DC. Scary!!

Bozeman, Montana

I looked for some pictures of the government health care opposition protest in Belgrade, MT in the News but they were very scarce. Here are a few I collected from here and here.

  • “Obama to Take On Health-Care Critics” –Washington Post

  • Obama lies and it might be your Grandma that dies

    August 16, 2009

    58102185Obama brought his Grandmother into the end of life discussion of  “death panels.” The Brownshirt Democrats have erupted in a cacophony of denials about this touchy issue. “Methinks the lady doth protest too much.” At the heart of this debate is the question of who will make the difficult decisions to pull the plug on granny. At present this difficult decision is made by personal legal wills and family members. The concern is that this decision will become the providence of a new government run “death panel” whose only criteria will be cost savings. The “end of life counseling” indicates a “stealth” movement to this goal in this bill. The Senate has recently dropped the provision because of the political fallout of this issue. Other than flat out denials the Democrats have failed to be honest with us about this touchy issue.

    It is a very difficult decision now when families have to make it. They have to balance personal feelings with financial costs and the will of the family member. The idea the decision will just disappear in a government run health care system is absurd. The question of who will make this decision and what will be the criteria is at the core of the current controversy.

    The following excerpt is from Newsmax:

    President Barack Obama on Saturday invoked his own anguish over the death of a loved one as he challenged the debunked notion that Democratic efforts to overhaul the nation’s health care would include “death panels.”

    “I just lost my grandmother last year. I know what it’s like to watch somebody you love, who’s aging, deteriorate and have to struggle with that,” an impassioned Obama told a crowd in Grand Junction, Colo., as he spoke of Madelyn Payne Dunham. He took issue with “the notion that somehow I ran for public office or members of Congress are in this so they can go around pulling the plug on grandma.”

    First of all the charge of “death panels” has only been debunked in the Obama loving media that acts as his personal cheerleading section. Now this may sound real touchy-feely on the surface but lets take a closer look at the issue. Here’s another statement as reported by Bloomberg made by Obama this spring on his grandmothers death. She died from cancer two days before the election last Nov 4th. The statement is about the cost and practicality of her hip replacement surgery.

    President Barack Obama said his grandmother’s hip-replacement surgery during the final weeks of her life made him wonder whether expensive procedures for the terminally ill reflect a “sustainable model” for health care.

    So even he admits that his own personal situation with his grandmother “made him wonder whether expensive procedures for the terminally ill reflect a ‘sustainable model’ for health care.” It is a serious moral and ethical issue. It is a real issue that challenges many families today. You can extrapolate from his statement that a government run system would be “unsustainable” if it provided care to every senior that needed it. He admits that it is a cost effectiveness issue. If it provided care to everyone that needed care it would cost to much and go bankrupt. It is a cost issue. It is quite a different statement from the one he made at the Townhall propaganda event where he is trying to “sell” his health program to an increasingly doubtful public. He attempts to use empathy to to reach out and deceive us about his real concern and intention which he clearly stated last April.

    With his grandmothers death it was a personal decision. He did not try to stop her from getting the operation but he infers that under a public system somebody would have to make that decision. A government “death panel.” Now you can call this a “cost effectiveness panel” if you want but the effect is the same. This is what is so disturbing to both seniors and family members.

    Equally conerning to us is that doctors in his administration have made very troubling statements on the issue of cost effectiveness concerning seniors. For the Democrats to deny this is an issue is a bald faced lie. Does Obama agree with them? He hasn’t fired them because he disagrees with them.

    From Dr. Ezekiel Emanuel, the brother of White House Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel.

    He has already been appointed to two key positions: health-policy adviser at the Office of Management and Budget and a member of Federal Council on Comparative Effectiveness Research…. Savings, he writes, will require changing how doctors think about their patients: Doctors take the Hippocratic Oath too seriously, “as an imperative to do everything for the patient regardless of the cost or effects on others” (Journal of the American Medical Association, June 18, 2008)…..

    And here is another troubling statement from Dr. David Blumenthal, another key Obama adviser.

    He recommends slowing medical innovation to control health spending. Blumenthal has long advocated government health-spending controls, though he concedes they’re “associated with longer waits” and “reduced availability of new and expensive treatments and devices” (New England Journal of Medicine, March 8, 2001). But he calls it “debatable” whether the timely care Americans get is worth the cost. (Ask a cancer patient, and you’ll get a different answer. Delay lowers your chances of survival.)

    This statement from the president’s budget director, Peter Orszag is perhaps the most ominous indicating they want a new, presidentially-appointed bureaucracy or a “death panel.”

    Knowing how unpopular the cuts will be, the president’s budget director, Peter Orszag, urged Congress this week to delegate its own authority over Medicare to a new, presidentially-appointed bureaucracy that wouldn’t be accountable to the public.

    You can play all the word games you want but for the Democrats to deny that this is a real issue is indicative of just how dishonest that really are and it proves that they will tell any lie to get this bill passed. This is exactly why this bill should be rejected by America. It is being proposed by pathological liars that have continued to prove just how irresponsible they really are. That is our government at work.

    Obama lies and it might your Grandma that dies as a result of it………

    Obamacare: Did Stalin Have it Right?

    August 14, 2009

    “A single death is a tragedy, a million deaths is a statistic.” – Joseph Stalin

    The Democrats are lining up like ‘Brownshirts’ behind Obamacare. They have characterized their political opponents as Nazis, KKK, thugs, mobs, Un-American, racist rednecks and they claim it’s all organized by Republicans “right out of their dirty playbook.”  Nothing could be further from the truth. So much for the civil debate on this divisive issue by the Democrats. Welcome to the new civil war in America. It’s the continuing Socialist war on free America. The commies really are finally taking over but don’t call them that because according to them, socialism is the new “N word.” They want to marginalize anyone that disagrees with them so they label them. They even initiated an Orwellian national snitch program at Can you imagine the uproar if Bush had tried a fascist stunt like that? No complaints from the state run Obama media though.

    You may be able to find your new national ID in one of those descriptions. “Redneck #455763232 – please explain your thought crimes against Obama.”

    They characterize the opposition to Obamacare as “fear mongering and scaring seniors” and call it misinformation, yet no one has tried to explain why these things are hidden in this monstrosity of a Trojan horse health bill. Perhaps they thought we would not read it either and by stealth they could sneak their real hidden agenda past us. It’s Obama that is practicing real “fear mongering.” He is creating a crisis where none existed. He is the one beholden to the special interests of the drug companies that WANT TO MAINTAIN THEIR STAUS QUO WITH THIS BILL. It’s not about health reform. It’s about the government taking over our lives in the name of “health reform.” It is about replacing the American free society with government control of every part of our lives. I don’t want the government involved in my health decisions or my health insurance. Giving them this amount of control over someone’s life would mean that they are completely and irreversibly dependent on the government for the rest of their life. For the socialist this sounds like a utopia but for a free American it is a living nightmare. The complete socialist cradle to grave nanny state.

    Obamacare is in every way Un-American. He is attempting to use stealth and subterfuge to deceive us into buying into a commie program. It’s like telling people to spend money so they can save. As our wise sage Biden said recently, “In order to keep from going bankrupt we need to spend money.” Wrong again – we need to stop spending money we don’t have to keep from going bankrupt. The only conclusion I can come to is that they want to bankrupt and destroy us economically. In other words what they are doing is intentional. How’s that for some fear mongering? It scares the hell out of me………

    58102185I want the government to keep their hands off of my body and out of my life! That used to be the mantra of the feminists. For the Democrats, a government run Healthcare system is a utopian dream. The ultimate fulfillment of their programmed progressive liberal human evolution. It is a sacred tenant, the holiest of sacred cows, the Holy Grail of all their “isms.” It was also one of Stalin’s most effective weapons of government control. Obama wants a single pay system no matter what he says in his orchestrated “Townhall” propaganda events. We already know that he will say anything to get elected. He will say anything to get this bill passed to – in any form. They claim they want to discuss it “civilly” when they tried to Rahm it through Congress before summer recess when no one even knew what was in the bill. This stuff could already be law if we hadn’t stopped it. What a bunch of pathological liars…….

    Health is an individual responsibility it is not a government mandate. We all need insurance for an unforeseen catastrophic illness but as it is used today it is abused. People act as if everything is covered. We have car insurance but we pay for all the maintenance, tires and gas etc. People use their health insurance for everything. That is one reason why premiums are so high.

    Inflation is the another big reason costs continue to soar. The hidden tax on life. Americans would not be so hard pressed by costs if we were not being run into the ground by the bankers of Wall Street. The continued devaluation of the dollar by our deficit spending addicts in government is a primary causes of inflation along with the excessive expansion of our money supply by the Fed. Life in general has become unaffordable – not just our Healthcare. The bastard child of socialism called “Obamacare” will only aggravate this trend. You can’t outsource Healthcare. You can’t import cheaper doctors. People from all over the world come to America to get the best Healthcare available. We don’t go anywhere else to utilize their national single pay systems, with the exception of some natural healing programs that are out of reach of the FDA as in Mexico, but those are not government programs. Have you ever heard of anyone going to Russia for a heart operation?

    The preventative insurance of living a healthy life is the best policy along with the grace of God. The government cannot legislate good personal decisions for health – it can’t even make them for itself. The government cannot guarantee our health. The government cannot take care of itself – never mind the country’s health needs. Our government has lost all credibility. It is sick and riddled with disease. It is a pandemic. They are infecting the population. They should be quarantined until cured – perhaps even in the Gulag. They need a financial and economics 101 lesson by Dave Ramsey. We need a 12 step program for the spending and control addicts in our government. They are pathological liars that try to hide their sickness. They will say anything to get us to buy them another drink. Our modern day benefactors are wolves in sheep’s clothing. They always want to spend other peoples money – not their own.

    I would be willing to pay more taxes to help wean them of their addiction. Deficit spending is a disease that is destroying America. Obama is by far the worst case we have seen so far. Would any amount of treatment heal him? I think it would not be cost effective. There are many others we could save with that tax money.

    Do we need real health reform? Absolutely. Let’s start by cutting the billing and administrative costs of insurance. Let’s stop big pharma peddling drugs on TV. Let’s stop the special interests from buying our politicians and running the agencies that are suppose to look out for the American people. They are the ones making too much money by getting Americans addicted to their crap. Lets have real TORT reform. Lets have insurance that works nationally. Let’s get rid of the fraud in medicare and medicaid. I could go on and on but Obama is doing none of these things with this bill. The Obama administration is run and controlled by special interests, political lobbies and Wall St. The corruption of Chicago has taken over the White House and America.

    Do you think the idea of rationing Healthcare is made up by radical right extremists? It is being proposed by the liberal Stalinists on the left, like Obama’s own appointees……..

    The proposed concept of letting someone die because it is more cost effective is not something just made up – it is real. Joseph Stalin, was arguably one of the most brutal mass murderers to ever live on earth. How could anyone in their right mind hold him up as an of example of “moral ethics” of rationing healthcare. I believe you can attribute about 30 million deaths to him. 10 million starved to death in the Ukraine in 1933 when he cut off their food. Do you think anyone received end of life counseling from him in the Gulag? Stalin had it right? This conclusion is the product of a liberal government education. They need to study a little real history.

    Stalin was a monster. How many lives did he save in the USSR with his government health plan? We know he killed millions, far more than Hitler. How could he be the architect of a modern socialist government run Healthcare? Who in their right mind would hold him up as an example of good moral and ethical judgement for doctors? The concept is absurd.

    I don’t want Obama’s 1.5 trillion dollar socialist health plan and I don’t want the 700 billion proposed by the stupid Republicans either. If the government cannot manage the responsibilities they already have, who in their right mind would propose that we give them more? That is insane. The real moral and ethical challenges of cost effectiveness vs medical is an individual decision. It is not the responsibility of our government or an unseen board. That is what wills are for. It is an individual decision and a personal decision.

    Articles about rationing Healthcare:

    Healthcare Rationing: Why Stalin Had it Right

    In 1984, Colorado Governor Richard Lamm famously opined that the elderly had a “duty to die” in order to free up resources for the young. He was vilified.

    In 1987, Oregon stepped into the mess that is healthcare rationing, and spent much of the next decade scraping off its metaphorical shoe. In the face of exploding Medicaid costs, the state legislature decided not to fund transplants (including bone marrow transplants) in order to preserve limited funds to cover other services.


    Dr. Ezekiel Emanuel, the brother of White House Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel. He has already been appointed to two key positions: health-policy adviser at the Office of Management and Budget and a member of Federal Council on Comparative Effectiveness Research…. Savings, he writes, will require changing how doctors think about their patients: Doctors take the Hippocratic Oath too seriously, “as an imperative to do everything for the patient regardless of the cost or effects on others” (Journal of the American Medical Association, June 18, 2008)…..

    The bills being rushed through Congress will be paid for largely by a $500 billion-plus cut in Medicare over 10 years. Knowing how unpopular the cuts will be, the president’s budget director, Peter Orszag, urged Congress this week to delegate its own authority over Medicare to a new, presidentially-appointed bureaucracy that wouldn’t be accountable to the public.

    Dr. David Blumenthal, another key Obama adviser, agrees. He recommends slowing medical innovation to control health spending.

    Blumenthal has long advocated government health-spending controls, though he concedes they’re “associated with longer waits” and “reduced availability of new and expensive treatments and devices” (New England Journal of Medicine, March 8, 2001). But he calls it “debatable” whether the timely care Americans get is worth the cost. (Ask a cancer patient, and you’ll get a different answer. Delay lowers your chances of survival.)

    Also a good read here:
    STALINIST ‘REFORM’: A public option that destroys all options

    We are not making this stuff up folks! We did not write this bill – they did!

    Here are a coupe of lists of stuff they sneaked into this bill.

    Have You Read The New Health Plan Bill?
    Obama Health Plan’s Dirty, Tyrannical, Hidden Secrets

    Read the bill yourself here: